If you are not 'Resident' in
Submitted by alan h on Thu, 10/06/2016 - 03:54In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
If you are not 'Resident' in Italy, don't bother trying to buy a car - you won't be able to register it, [or insure it]. Its one of the many quirks of the Italian system that even owning a property in Italy won't make buying a car possible - you have to be Resident[In theory, this Italian practice is illegal under EU rules, but since when have Italians followed them - unless it suits them to]
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Yes, I'd heard that, but it's
Submitted by McDdd on Thu, 10/06/2016 - 10:03In reply to If you are not 'Resident' in by alan h
Yes, I'd heard that, but it's obviously not as important as it seems, or some would like it to seem, because non-residents from all over the EU buy cars in Italy and take them home all the time. Re-registering it is no problem. I suspect you might be close to right about the insurance: one probably needs to get a dealer, or the previous owner, to insure the car on a short-term basis until it can be re-registered abroad, which takes about a week here. My insurance company is happy for me to buy insurance here, at this end, so that's probably the way to go. (It's only a couple of euro if I decide not to buy that particular car and cancel the policy a couple of days after buying it.) Does anyone know a bit more about this, or have any other (preferably more constructive than poisonous) comment? I'm really looking for someone who knows what they're talking about here. You've all got cars; someone must know someone who knows something about (buying and selling for export) them.
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Sorry you thought my comments
Submitted by alan h on Sat, 10/08/2016 - 05:04In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Sorry you thought my comments were poisonous - I thought I was being realistic...These may helphttp://www.understandingitaly.com/living-content/motoring.htmlhttps://www.italymagazine.com/community/post/buying-car-non-residentshttps://www.justlanded.com/english/Italy/Articles/Travel-Leisure/Buying-a-carhttp://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate-italy-car-purchasehttp://www.langhe.property/article-buying-a-car-in-piedmont-italy.html Note what they all say about 'Residency' Good Luck
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Well, perhaps 'poisonous'
Submitted by McDdd on Sat, 10/08/2016 - 07:50In reply to Sorry you thought my comments by alan h
Well, perhaps 'poisonous' might not be the best description, but I couldn't help being struck by the feeling that the purpose you intended them to serve when you wrote them was about making yourself feel exclusive as one privileged to have a car in Italy, more than they were about trying to help me get a car there. The links are interesting, thanks, but I've been there before. They're not relevant to buying a car for export, which doesn't (obviously) require residency. The most interesting point was made in that last one, '...buying-a-car-in-piedmont...': "Go with an Italian and don't speak." That's what I'm looking for – an Italian to go with. I thought I'd made it clear from the start. I guess I must just write badly.
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no residence , no car .. only
Submitted by Ugo on Sat, 10/08/2016 - 05:22In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
no residence , no car .. only bicicletta e monopattino ! :) They are good for health !!
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Only if you live there.
Submitted by McDdd on Sat, 10/08/2016 - 07:49In reply to no residence , no car .. only by Ugo
Only if you live there. Neither bicycles nor 'monopattinos' (whatever they are) are as good for your health as they are dangerous when there's ice on the road, as there is for several months of the year here.
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when there is ice, you're at
Submitted by Ugo on Sat, 10/08/2016 - 10:59In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
when there is ice, you're at home, sitting by the fire reading or knitting :)
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Depends on circumstance, I
Submitted by McDdd on Sat, 10/08/2016 - 11:37In reply to when there is ice, you're at by Ugo
Depends on circumstance, I should think. If you've got four kids in school, all of whom need to be taken to various sports and interest groups, reading and knitting, with or without a fire, may not be an option. I used to take my son to kindergarten by bike a couple of years ago, before he got too big and heavy. (We use a forward-mounted kids' bike seat.) I did over a thousand miles that autumn: 20km there together and 20km home for me alone in the morning followed by the same again to get him back in the afternoon. The weather was good enough (no ice on the roads) to keep that up right through until October that year, although his mother used to make an awful fuss. So, I'm not averse to cycling – nor reading, nor knitting – but we really do have many good uses for a car, particularly during the winter.
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Well - as long as you do not
Submitted by Ugo on Sat, 10/08/2016 - 11:44In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Well - as long as you do not take up residence in Italy. the only car you own that you can use is the Car of San Francisco, that is, the shoes ...
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".....I couldn't help being
Submitted by alan h on Sun, 10/09/2016 - 06:53In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
".....I couldn't help being struck by the feeling that the purpose you intended them to serve when you wrote them was about making yourself feel exclusive as one privileged to have a car in Italy...."I wish - I'm non-resident, so no carYou might consider buying one in France or Germany - no problems there
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Just couldn't find exactly
Submitted by McDdd on Sun, 10/09/2016 - 07:19In reply to ".....I couldn't help being by alan h
Just couldn't find exactly what we wanted there.
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but ultimately, this is why
Submitted by Ugo on Sun, 10/09/2016 - 07:11In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
but ultimately, this is why tuuto 'buy a car in Estonia is very expensive?But is perhaps also to consider, that when you ask to put the license plate of Estonia, to your Italian cars - the state will ask you to pay all the fees that you would have paid to the seller in Estonia..
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No, EU citizens pay VAT on
Submitted by McDdd on Sun, 10/09/2016 - 07:29In reply to but ultimately, this is why by Ugo
No, EU citizens pay VAT on cars only once – to the seller where it was bought, not in the country into which it is imported. I've already imported a car (from the UK) to Estonia, so that part of the process is quite clear. It cost about €200, but that's only because UK registered cars are awkward: they need to have new headlights (right-dipping) and a rear fog light fitted. State (re-)registration fees c/w plates, which includes informing the other EU state to remove the car from its register, were about €50 (might have been €80 – can't remember) – not a daunting obstacle.
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