"We ............ need a
Submitted by alan h on Sun, 05/21/2017 - 03:26In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
"We ............ need a system that can also start automatically if we're not at the house (to stop pipes freezing in the colder months). ...."I leave my place, in Piemonte, empty for months at a time over Winter. All you need is the correct amount of anti-freeze in the system and it won't suffer damage - no need to run the system at all. Anyway - when would you run it - every time it goes below 0C? [you'd be burning a lot of fuel unnecessarily]
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Thanks Alan - good to know.
Submitted by sbthorne on Sun, 05/21/2017 - 04:00In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thanks Alan - good to know. And of course makes complete sense. This is new to us so we're trying to explore all things. Whereabouts in Piemonte are you and where do you go in winter?
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"Whereabouts in Piemonte are
Submitted by alan h on Sun, 05/21/2017 - 07:07In reply to Thanks Alan - good to know. by sbthorne
"Whereabouts in Piemonte are you and where do you go in winter?"Its a holiday home [lock up and leave] about halfway up Mottarone - between Lakes Orta and Maggiore. So mostly in the UK
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Alan why do you not just
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Sun, 05/21/2017 - 04:47In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Alan why do you not just drain the system? Must admit I would never have thought of antifreeze, so checked out and indeed sites on how to came up like this! Does seem a bit of a faff and a lot of things to look out for, worth a read...
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My old system - I drained it
Submitted by alan h on Sun, 05/21/2017 - 07:13In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
My old system - I drained it every winter - bit of a faff when you do a 1 week visit. However - you will note when draining that the water isn't clear - its usually has a brown tinge. This is rust. Each time you recharge the system with clean water, you are adding water with dissolved Oxygen in it, and are therefore setting up the next session in the rust cycle. The way to add antifreeze to your system [it is also a rust inhibitor], is so simple. It took my plumber 10 minutes, but it was easily a DIY project. The way is;-
- Choose a radiator
- Close off all the valves to it
- 'Crack' one of the lower joints to let some water out. If you have a radiator with a drain cock fitted use that one, rather than cracking a joint.
- When the required amount of water is out of the rad [required amount = amount of antifreeze to add], do the lower joint up tight.
- Remove the bleed nipple arrangement [relatively easy]
- With a funnel and short length of small diameter hose, pour the antifreeze in.
- Refit the nipple.
- Open back up the radiator valves
- Run the system for 20 minutes or so to circulate the antifreeze.
My plumber put enough in to "cover down to about minus 20C" -You can do it yourself, but as it really is a 'One Off' job - get a plumber to do it [mine charged about 40 Euros to do it, including the antifreeze
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I doubt we would ever need
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Sun, 05/21/2017 - 09:06In reply to My old system - I drained it by alan h
I doubt we would ever need such, but that's a great post Alan with so much detail I reckon even I could do it!
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Hello Steve, and welcome to
Submitted by Ronco on Mon, 05/22/2017 - 04:42In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Hello Steve, and welcome to Piemonte! There are a number of combi pellet / log boilers on the market:http://www.arcacaldaie.com/catalogo/caldaie-a-legna-pellethttp://www.herz-energie.at/it/prodotti/herz-pelletfire-20-40-t-control/http://www.mescolicaldaie.it/product/caldaia-combinata-legnapellet-funzionamento-automatico/http://www.eta-italia.it/caldaie-combinate-a-ceppi-di-legno-e-pellets/ For sourcing the best for your needs, you would have to visit the showroom and discuss your requirements and their technical details with the sales people. I would also have thought it possible to integrate a combi pellet / log boiler into a solar system for hot water to provide winter back up. We have a house in Calamandrana, the heating pipes have the standard insulation coat – the house is sporadically occupied over the winter months and in 10 years we have not had any problems of frozen heating pipes when unoccupied. Best regards, Conor
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In reply to Hello Steve, and welcome to by Ronco
Hi ConorThanks for your excellent reply - most helpful indeed. We are finally here and just up the road from you in Rocchetta Palafea.Are you here most of the time?Steve
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Hi Steve, We go for some weekends, indeed we were there last weekend.In fact I am going to the house to do dome things tomorrow. (wednesday)I like Rocchetta Palafea - it is beautiful. All the best, Conor
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Once we're a litle more
Submitted by sbthorne on Tue, 06/06/2017 - 08:24In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Once we're a litle more sorted up here you'd be welcome to stop by. Safe travelsSteve
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Hi Steve, It would be great to meet a new neighbour, there is an increasing amount of non-Italian residents in the area.You will be welcome to come and vist us as well, and Please feel free to contact me via email:info@rinovaprojects.com All the best Conor
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Cheers Conor - will do as
Submitted by sbthorne on Wed, 06/07/2017 - 12:26In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Cheers Conor - will do as soon as we come up for air in sorting the move-in. House is a tip! I'm at sbthorne@rocketmail.comTalk soon for sureSteve
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