You can apply for…
Submitted by Maurice on Wed, 11/18/2020 - 06:52You can apply for citizenship "jure sanguinis". I'm not an expert but you may have to have a direct line, i.e. that your mother or father have to be/become an Italian citizen first. But otherwise fairly straightforward. see https://italiancitizenshipassistance.com/jure-sanguinis/
The main problem may be acquiring your grandparents documents.
I'm currently suing the Italian state to acquire citizenship as my Italian mother lost hers when she married my father, an English soldier, in 1947
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Thanks for that. Good luck…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 04:28In reply to You can apply for… by Maurice
Thanks for that. Good luck with your process, not an easy task but one step at a time.
My father acquired his Italian citizenship a few years ago via his parents roots,
Can I assume that as my father has technically always been an Italian citizen including when I was born I qualify, or after I turned 18 does it all change?
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Again, I am not an expert…
Submitted by Maurice on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 06:46In reply to Thanks for that. Good luck… by Clueless in Italy
Again, I am not an expert but, if you are in Italy, contact your comune or, if in the UK/US then the consulate. I think it will be straight forward (as anything can be in Italy!) for you.
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Is it simple to get an…
Submitted by fliflier on Tue, 12/01/2020 - 15:37In reply to You can apply for… by Maurice
Is it simple to get an Italian passport?
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if your paternal…
Submitted by Ugo on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 14:22if your paternal grandparents were Italian, their son: your father, too, is Italian by birth, so if he has not renounced Italian citizenship, during his life, you, who are his son, are Italian, for birth - every Italian has the right to an Italian passport - I don't see the problem
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That's great seems positive…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 16:26In reply to if your paternal… by Ugo
That's great seems positive. If my dad had been given his Italian citizenship etc. Does that mean that he did not renounce his Italian citizenship.
Thanks
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Didn't you know your father?…
Submitted by Ugo on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 16:31Didn't you know your father? , you don't know if he had an Italian passport ?
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Sorry what I meant was my…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 16:56In reply to Didn't you know your father?… by Ugo
Sorry what I meant was my father had a British passport from birth and then at age 65 obtained his Italian passport. Did him having a British passport mean he at some time have up his Italian citizenship.?
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I hate predictive texting. …
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 16:58In reply to Sorry what I meant was my… by Clueless in Italy
I hate predictive texting.
Should read gave up..
Unfortunately that's not the worst predictive text miss print I have had. ?
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but you haven't lived with…
Submitted by Ugo on Tue, 11/24/2020 - 17:08but you haven't lived with your father, you never asked him these things ?
anyway, if your grandparents were Italian, your father was born Italian - and if for reasons you don't know, he also had an Italian passport, the fact that at 65 he received an Italian one, in my thought, it just means he had double passport -
If you are not an Italian citizen at birth, it is possible that in the country where you were born, there was the possibility to choose the nationality of the unborn child. In Italy, children receive the citizenship of the father, only if the mother is not of Italian citizenship, and the father does not recognize them as his own.
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Your father will almost…
Submitted by Maurice on Wed, 11/25/2020 - 05:10Your father will almost certainly have had dual citizenship. It's not possible for all countries but is for UK and Italy
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a question that may seem…
Submitted by Ugo on Wed, 11/25/2020 - 05:19a question that may seem silly ..., but .., on your birth certificate, what is written, for the citizenship of your parents?
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It does and at that time my…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Wed, 11/25/2020 - 05:27In reply to a question that may seem… by Ugo
It does and at that time my father only had his British passport. Approx 50 years after my birth he applied and received his Italian citizenship.
I will be starting the process very soon just wanted an idea if it would be possible via my father's status or if I would need to go back to my Nonno and Nonna.
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so you were registered at…
Submitted by Ugo on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 04:26so you were registered at birth, English citizen!
A question, if you allow, why do you want Italian citizenship, more than 50 years after your birth?
Lately I have noticed that the number of people, born and registered with citizenships, the most varied, however outside Italy, who desire Italian citizenship has increased. While, every day, the Italian citizens, who emigrate, to have a better life, increase.
If emigration does not surprise me at all, instead I am amazed by this immigration, <bureaucratic>, most of those who obtain Italian citizenship, then remain to live in the country in which they were born that gave them their first citizenship .
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No problem with the question…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 04:38No problem with the question.
I have a house in Italy, I visit about 5 times a year and spend about 6 weeks there in the summer. In the future I would like to spend more time. With brexit I don't want the situation where after a 6 month tourist visa expires and I would have to drive to Switzerland and then reenter Italy to get another 6 month visa.
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Is the situation not worse…
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 05:15In reply to No problem with the question… by Clueless in Italy
Is the situation not worse than this and you would only have 90/180 days i.e. 3 months in any 6 month max in Italy?
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Thank you
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No one knows at the moment…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 05:34No one knows at the moment. I am just going off the situation in Canada. The United Arab Emirates also gives a 6 month stamp.
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Trouble is it is a schengen…
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 07:51Trouble is it is a schengen area and the rules here don't look too good to me. Near the end of it it gives details on how long you can staty.
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Remember, (assuming you are…
Submitted by alan h on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 09:51Remember, (assuming you are from the UK) that if you are out if the UK for more than 6 months (continuous), you (in theory,) lose the right to NHS services when you return. And any travel insurance and car insurance is similarly time limited
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Am surprised to hear the NHS…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 10:03Am surprised to hear the NHS news. Have worked abroad extensively over the last 30 years and never had an issue on returning with the health service.
Also not sure how that fits with an issue the NHS has been having with overseas nationals using the health service.
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I think all you need to do…
Submitted by stevegwmonkseaton on Thu, 11/26/2020 - 11:38I think all you need to do if you return to England and are asked at hospital or the GPs (which I doubt and has never happened to us) is show them your UK passport.
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Hi, do you still need advice…
Submitted by bessopianetto on Wed, 01/13/2021 - 20:54Hi, do you still need advice about getting your citizenship? I can answer your questions.
Thanks - laura
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I was able to get my Italian…
Submitted by valtal on Fri, 01/29/2021 - 12:34I was able to get my Italian citizenship because my father was born before my grandfather renounced his Italian citizenship to gain U.S. citizenship. Since my father was born to Italians, he was considered Italian. He never needed to renounce his Italian citizenship because the U.S. automatically gave citizenship to the children of new citizens and their spouses. I learned of this law (juris Sanguinis) in 2005 and made two trips to Italy to my grandfather's birth town and secured an official copy of his birth certificate. That process took about 1 hour, once we got to the town and to the Ufficio. Funny thing, the men in the Ufficio both had my surname, but were of no direct relationship, so far as we could figure. I used the birth certificate prove my eligibility for Italian citizenship. Once I got the citizenship (3 years long process), I was easily able to get a passport. When I went to renew that passport in early 2020, the Consulato took my fingerprints, my $60, and the completed form, as well as my old passport with the corner now cut to show it was no longer valid. Within two weeks, I had a new passport in the mail. The three year long citizenship process was the challenge. I also secured citizenship for my children at the same time. I had 30 sets of official documents translated into Italian. That was the most expensive part of the process, close to $1000, but the translator was excellent. She worked for a law firm in LA and often translated for people like me.
Louise
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Thanks for that, very…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 10:50Thanks for that, very helpful.
Your situation mirrors! Very closely.
So am I correct in saying you require the birth certificate of the closest relative born in Italy. Ie my Nonno and Nonna?
And did you require anything ing more from you father other than his Italian passport? (birth, marriage certificates etc?)
Thanks
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Well, not exactly. There…
Submitted by valtal on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 22:33In reply to Thanks for that, very… by Clueless in Italy
Well, not exactly. There were certain rules governing whether it was your paternal side or maternal side, depending on ascendants dates of immigration, etc. So, in my case, I had to verify through my father's father and retrieved my grandfather's birth record from Italy. It was necessary to have the most recent ascendant's record of whether he renounced his Italian citizenship. Though my grandfather did, my father never did because he did not need to. Thus, he remained an Italian citizen by birth. It was unimportant regarding my Italian grandmother's history as to my eligibility, but I did have to retrieve her birth record, as well, which I did.
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Play so the fact that my…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 06:41In reply to Well, not exactly. There… by valtal
Play so the fact that my father didn't renounce his Italian citizenship and now has his Italian passport I should be able to apply via his status.?
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Sorry predictive txt....
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Fri, 02/05/2021 - 06:41Sorry predictive txt....
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Hi, If your father has his…
Submitted by bessopianetto on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 04:24In reply to Sorry predictive txt.... by Clueless in Italy
Hi,
If your father has his passport then this will mean he has his citizenship. You cannot have a passport without being a citizen. Do you know if your father processed his in the UK or the town in italy that his parents were born?
Are you planning to apply in the UK at the Italian embassy? If so, I can send the list of documents you will need. It would be faster if your father did his in the UK but not necessary.
Let me know if you need more details.
Thanks
Laura
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Hi thanks for that. My dad…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Sun, 02/07/2021 - 09:11In reply to Hi, If your father has his… by bessopianetto
Hi thanks for that.
My dad arranged his passport in the UK.
I am intending to do the same.
Thanks
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Ok well that's all pretty…
Submitted by bessopianetto on Sun, 02/07/2021 - 15:17In reply to Hi thanks for that. My dad… by Clueless in Italy
Ok well that's all pretty easy then.here is a list of what you will need.
An original of your birth certificate that the embassy will keep - not sure if you can order online the UK but easy to do here. If you are married or divorced or both you will need originals of these too.
You need to have all 3 documents translated by an approved translator - there will be a list on the Italian embassy UK website.
You then need to have the 3 original English docs apostle by your UK government to prove they are original and true documents.
Your Italian embassy over there has a register online to make a booking so do that and then you should be ready to take yours proof in, basically they will open your dads file and see that you are a continuation of his citizenship so you shouldn't need any details about that.
There will be an aire form to complete which is Italian residents living abroad which they send your family comune.
Any questions let me know :)
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Thank you very much. That…
Submitted by Clueless in Italy on Mon, 02/08/2021 - 05:32Thank you very much.
That's a great help.
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Everything Besso.. said is…
Submitted by valtal on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 16:36In reply to Thank you very much. That… by Clueless in Italy
Everything Besso.. said is consistent with my experiences here in the U.S. at the Italian Consulate in Los Angeles.
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Everything Besso... said is…
Submitted by valtal on Sat, 04/03/2021 - 16:34Everything Besso... said is consistent with my experience here in the U.S. at the Los Angeles Consulate.
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I looked into this as well…
Submitted by ejaiello on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 18:32I looked into this as well and it seem fairly specific. Back in the day I do not think dual citizenship was allowed so when my Grandfather took his American citizenship oath, he had to denounce his Italian citizenship. If your parents (of Italian decent) were born prior to your Grandfather becoming a citizen of another country, you qualify. In my case my Grandmother was pregnant with my father at the time so I do not qualify but it is my understanding that in such cases the residency requirement is reduced from 10 years to 3.
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Hello! Make sure you triple…
Submitted by bessopianetto on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 18:38In reply to I looked into this as well… by ejaiello
Hello! Make sure you triple check the dates it was finally processed.. my grandmothers took 3 years to actually finally go through in Australia which was 3 months after my aunt was born so her family could get citizenship:)
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Thank you, I can check but I…
Submitted by ejaiello on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 20:26In reply to Hello! Make sure you triple… by bessopianetto
Thank you, I can check but I have his naturalization document and I assume the date on it is the legal date.
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